ezdzit247 wrote:Just saying, AGAIN, there is no "one size fits all" way to work the AA program. No "orthodox" way. No "right" way. No "wrong" way.
It seems to me that everyone who made a comment on how, or how fast, the program should be done, agreed that there was no one way for every person, so there is no need for us to keep bringing that up.
chefchip Apr 6. - I don't recommend guides to sponsorship, as my approach at least changes with each sponsee. vintagecurles83 Apr 7. - What works for one doesn't work for another. larrylive Apr 7. - I am not sure I understand all this talk of timeframe for working the steps. Brock Apr7. - It is very refreshing to read things like this, a sponsor who uses common sense, (and prayer), to understand that the needs of each sponsee varies. hercramsey May 24. - Bingo. The one size fits all concept does not work.
And then the discussion restarted –
chrissypoo Jul 1. - No one was forced into anything. No one must do anything in AA.
As for the problem BPG has with what Blue Moon wrote, and which he erroneously quotes as follows –
BPG said -What's just plain silly is to suggest that alcoholics who do not work the program 'the right way' would be better off going back out for some more convincing.
We should be careful and reread what folks say, Blue Moon spoke of our failure to properly take the newcomer under our wing, and when he speaks of SOME people perhaps needing a bit more punishment what’s so wrong with that, he blames it on our ineptness, this is what he in fact said -
Blue Moon said - Fast-forward to today when many of us still have jobs, cars, houses, partners, kids, etc. when we walk into a meeting, and others can barely bring themselves to even stick out a hand. As the 12&12 says, we "raised the bar". IMO, in some ways we lowered it, and some are better off drinking so that alcohol can do the persuading that we're so inept to do.
So as has been said before, we all enjoy a spirited discussion, but let’s perhaps stop repeating things which we pretty well agree on anyway, and when quoting someone, do so in a way that we have a complete picture of the point they were making. I feel that way we will better enjoy and learn from the discussion.
"Good morning, this is your Higher Power speaking. I will not be needing your help today."