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by avaneesh912
Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:21 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: God/Higher Power
Replies: 82
Views: 5639

Re: God/Higher Power

This is from power of NOW: The word God has become empty of meaning through thousands of years of misuse. I use it sometimes, but I do so sparingly. By misuse, I mean that people who have never even glimpsed the realm of the sacred, the infinite vastness behind that word, use it with great convictio...
by avaneesh912
Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: Big Book Study
Topic: Mental Obsession
Replies: 19
Views: 2521

Re: Mental Obsession

Anyway i'm just confused about what the mental obsession is? I get the physical allergy - phenomenon of craving. But the mental obsession i'm having trouble getting my head around. [/b] Book uses the phrases like peculiar mental twists/Blank spots. I read you picked up after 5 years back in decembe...
by avaneesh912
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:32 am
Forum: Sponsorship
Topic: First sponsor but not going well
Replies: 31
Views: 4313

Re: First sponsor but not going well

that I must ring my sponsor everyday without fail, that I’m affecting their sobriety when I don’t call because they’re worrying I’m drinking. They need to realize that the alcoholic has gone beyond human aid. They are not the one that is keeping you sober. The God within you is. Like any relationsh...
by avaneesh912
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

But you mean:
BB There Is A Solution, p.25
I meant the statement on page 92:
Show him the mental twist which leads to the first drink of a spree. We suggest you do this as we have done it in the chapter on alcoholism.
by avaneesh912
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:58 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

Conventions and step study all these work no denying that. But if people come with heavy baggage (the "I Know Syndrome") nothing can be accomplished. Recent step 1 workshop held last February on a day Atlanta experienced 3 inches of snow drew about 10 people. But there was one woman with 32 years so...
by avaneesh912
Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:01 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

Next week go back to the same meeting and share from the book and see what reaction you get. Though our decision (3rd step) was a vital and crucial step, it could have little permanent effect unless at once followed by a strenuous effort to face, and to be rid of, the things in ourselves which had b...
by avaneesh912
Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:52 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

there must be a reason for it. Books like Living Sober, being classified as "Conference approved literature" could be one of them. Nobody wants to take time to dig deep into the basic text. There are people who I know always refer to Doctors opinion and just talk about the allergy concept. For them...
by avaneesh912
Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:53 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

we STILL have to worry about the insanity sneaking up on us? [/b] Couple of things necessary to step into the rest of the steps: For those who are unable to drink moderately the question is how to stop altogether. We are assuming, of course, that the reader desires to stop. Above is one. Whether su...
by avaneesh912
Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:41 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 2 Keeping it Simple
Replies: 19
Views: 4485

Re: Step 2 Keeping it Simple

I think maybe, though, a belief that there exists such a higher power is important for 2. True but the issue is people spend a phenomenal amount of time discussion about it and giving it shape and form and expect others validation, while a simple belief that the process could restore them to sanity...
by avaneesh912
Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

we STILL have to worry about the insanity sneaking up on us? If we are in good spiritual condition no, because we will should have a clear understanding what a drink would do to us. Thats being restored to sanity. If not, of course, we could be blind sighted. If not now eventually people pop someth...
by avaneesh912
Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:53 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

I steered this off topic, so I'll just point to an amazing history "writing the big book" which dispels a lot of myths, many of which were intentionally perpetrated by bill for very good reasons and toward a very good end. All these aside, the concepts presented in the book, have been carefully tho...
by avaneesh912
Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

The Big Book is great, helpful. But it's not sacred text. It was written by one guy (Bill) except for one chapter (To Employers, by Hank Parkhurst) when Bill had 3 years sobriety. The end recognizes that the group was still learning, and development remained possible. Some archives and workshops ta...
by avaneesh912
Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

So what IS the answer - the solution - as you see it? I know we cannot fix someone, but atleast give them the true nature of the disease. Just like the book suggests, we could talk about the subtle insanity that precedes the first drink and also talk about the un-easiness when we are not drinking. ...
by avaneesh912
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:58 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety
Replies: 47
Views: 4405

Re: 24 hour Sobriety plan vs Permanent Sobriety

Lot of "my sponsor" said so, "when I came to the fellowship" responses. I get it. But having read the big book, we have a better understanding of the disease concepts and the solution to find a permanent solution. Why do we have to still use those incorrect teachings? When the book talks about the a...