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by MitchellK
Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:07 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Why do you want to become sober?
Replies: 33
Views: 7832

Re: Why do you want to become sober?

Since this is supposed to be an e-AA group, I thought it would be appropriate to inject a very important message given by an AA Co-Founder. There are two or three things that flashed into my mind on which it would be fitting to lay a little emphasis. One is the simplicity of our program. Let's not l...
by MitchellK
Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:31 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Why do you want to become sober?
Replies: 33
Views: 7832

Re: Why do you want to become sober?

Welcome to the forum. However, I do have a feeling that your link will be removed.

Regardless, keep coming back...
by MitchellK
Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:47 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Spiritual not religious not
Replies: 45
Views: 11320

Re: Spiritual not religious not

First off, you are vociferous in your repeated demands that anything and everything you considered as “Christian” be removed from the text. Complain to the “mods” if you feel you need to. Secondly, claiming words as an artifact or claiming the word God be it denominational or non-denominational is n...
by MitchellK
Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:54 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Spiritual not religious not
Replies: 45
Views: 11320

Re: Spiritual not religious not

hecramsey wrote: "Using aliases people tend to say things they may not normally, and not in a good way." Mitchell is my real name. Since this is a forum at the level of public communication I do not use my full name here in deference to AA's Tradition of anonymity. Why mention "aliases" posting unde...
by MitchellK
Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:58 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Spiritual not religious not
Replies: 45
Views: 11320

Re: Spiritual not religious not

Also from the new Chapter 5... Sometimes we've seen someone succeed... Then it will become a 45 page dissertation on what the word "succeed" can be defined as. Success is not a finite concept. Each individual can define what success means to them. For some, success is not drinking alcoholically. For...
by MitchellK
Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:49 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Spiritual not religious not
Replies: 45
Views: 11320

Re: Spiritual not religious not

When I go into a fast food franchise and order a cheeseburger in New York I know what to expect. When I go into the same franchise store in Los Angeles or Bangor, Maine and order a cheeseburger I know what to expect. When I go into the same franchise store in London, I still know what to expect. Of ...
by MitchellK
Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:18 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Spiritual not religious not
Replies: 45
Views: 11320

Re: Spiritual not religious not

I have a solution for hec... Since Alcoholics Anonymous World Services and delegates of the AA General Service Conference and standing AA policy is that the original text cannot be changed without approval from I believe to be 2/3 of the entire fellowship The fellowship is comprised of people from a...
by MitchellK
Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:44 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Spiritual not religious not
Replies: 45
Views: 11320

Re: Spiritual not religious not

I quite like this story which explains why they can all be right: Maybe they are right for each of them. But I do like the use of blind people when talking about religions all saying theirs is the only way. The same way that members of AA saying that AA is the only way. 90 meetings in 90 days is th...
by MitchellK
Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:41 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Spiritual not religious not
Replies: 45
Views: 11320

Re: Spiritual not religious not

The only HP I ever had were a couple of printers, a scanner and a computer. I have no problem saying God. I could care less if the God or god of your understanding is whatever you choose it to be. On page 68 of AA's Basic Text it states: " ...We can laugh at those who think spirituality the way of w...
by MitchellK
Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:32 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Spiritual not religious not
Replies: 45
Views: 11320

Re: Spiritual not religious not

There is a great article on the JACS web site: Lord's Prayer at AA Meetings by Peloni Almoni - This article is reprinted with permission from the Journal of Reform Judaism, Fall, 1987. Peloni Almoni was the anonymous pen name of a rabbi/alcoholic member of JACS now deceased, zt''l. May his memory be...
by MitchellK
Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:51 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: STEPSBYBIGBOOK dot NET
Replies: 11
Views: 3705

Re: STEPSBYBIGBOOK dot NET

I personally Don’t like the WebSite refered to in the topic... The content uses phrases in a WE format... like they, who ever they are, speak for AA as a whole. The AA I know is about Personal Experiences and the steps as written in the Big Book. Our adventures before and after... I share my story ...
by MitchellK
Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:43 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: STEPSBYBIGBOOK dot NET
Replies: 11
Views: 3705

Re: STEPSBYBIGBOOK dot NET

Lali wrote – “The terminology used by the authors suggests a sense of urgency and the importance of a strenuous effort with regard to the steps.” If we admit powerlessness over alcohol and go by the premise that we are sick (either disease or allergy) and need to get well, I think that unless we wan...
by MitchellK
Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:46 am
Forum: Sponsorship
Topic: Blank filling-in
Replies: 7
Views: 2996

Re: Blank filling-in

kenyal - thanks for clearing that up for me. For me, bringing the history to life in my mind is helped by putting together with the written word - audio and visual enhancements. I loved reading the personal stories of those who were instrumental in the early days of AA. Then I found photos of some o...
by MitchellK
Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:08 pm
Forum: Sponsorship
Topic: Blank filling-in
Replies: 7
Views: 2996

Re: Blank filling-in

kenyal wrote: "Though he died sober before I came in I've been able to hear many talks he gave..." Since this individual died before you came into AA I presume you've heard him via recorded talks. Since Earl T. was the guy who started AA in Chicago I also presume he is the person you refer to. Where...
by MitchellK
Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:15 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: white lies
Replies: 36
Views: 9856

Re: white lies

hec - I prefer a conceptual interpretation based upon what the documentation showed was the intent of the founding members over a literal translation. Having known Lois for several years and having spent many hours talking with her about what it used to be like, I remember one particular conversatio...