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by Tuff Gong
Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:47 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Sobriety and pain meds: At odds with my sponsor, help
Replies: 30
Views: 8582

Re: Sobriety and pain meds: At odds with my sponsor, help

Quality Sobriety - read Language of the Heart regarding emotional sobriety. Language of the Heart and 12x12 discusses what one may call "quality sobriety". Excellent commentary. Drugs in sobriety. Made very, very clear by my sponsor and its how I practice (me and my sponsees) Rules: 1) prescribing d...
by Tuff Gong
Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:57 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 5 days sober and "stinkin thinkin" is back
Replies: 11
Views: 4244

Re: 5 days sober and "stinkin thinkin" is back

Surrendering to the undeniable and painfully apparent fact that I am a alcoholic and need a whole program (meetings, sponsor, steps, service) is easily one of the very best things that has happened to me in my life. Stopping the battle where I lost most every single time and came with a horrible pri...
by Tuff Gong
Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:53 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: What do you guys do when people share bad information?
Replies: 32
Views: 6602

Re: What do you guys do when people share bad information?

My sponsor has impressed on me the stregth of the "language of the heart". All he and I can share is our own personal experience, strength and hope. If I am not speaking about my experience, my actions, my work then it is just conjecture. I also try very hard to not fall prey to the arrogance trap w...
by Tuff Gong
Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:08 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Emotional slip...
Replies: 8
Views: 3691

Re: Emotional slip...

The big buttons available for my family to push have easy access and big effects. No question several of these buttons have been transferred into my non family interactions. The beauty of my 10th step (format based on 4th step) is honestly and painstakingly running the resentments or twisted emotion...
by Tuff Gong
Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:32 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Stress.. Anger..how to deal with it??
Replies: 19
Views: 3878

Re: Stress.. Anger..how to deal with it??

Damon. Very much relate to where you are. I used to say (and genuinely feel) that "I don't get angry, I AM angry". I had a lot of fear around others and after a lifetime of wrestling with this fear I was exhausted, angry and alone. The 4th and 5th step has opened a door of freedom that I have always...
by Tuff Gong
Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:08 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Putting home group member out
Replies: 20
Views: 8844

Re: Putting home group member out

Home group meeting, group conscience with plan of action. If no old timers to lead, ask central service for a few members with long term sobriety that could guide the home group meeting through this issue based on the traditions with an objective perspective. My vote would be to have 2-3 men with lo...
by Tuff Gong
Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:43 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 2 and Step 3
Replies: 75
Views: 30452

Re: Step 2 and Step 3

Perhaps we should let Bill W. share: God as we understand him: The Dilemma of no Faith, AA Grapevine 1961 by Bill W. "The phrase "God As We Understand Him" is perhaps the most important expression to be found in our whole AA vocabulary. Within the compass of these five significant words there can be...
by Tuff Gong
Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:21 am
Forum: Suggestions
Topic: New Forum suggestion/ request
Replies: 4
Views: 7516

New Forum suggestion/ request

I'd like to suggest a new forum catagory: Personal faith/ practice and AA. This could be a forum where the 12 steps and traditions are discussed in concert with ones particular beliefs and religion. This would give me the ability to learn from other sober members who are also Buddhists. Similarly Ch...
by Tuff Gong
Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:36 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: 12 tradition checklist
Replies: 2
Views: 2410

12 tradition checklist

Below is a Tradition checklist published by central service. The questions are challenging and set me back on my heels. I have highlighted several questions which, IMO, are worth considering given some of the posts here (and good medicine for me). I really love AA and these type of questions put me ...
by Tuff Gong
Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:55 am
Forum: Big Book Study
Topic: Physical Allergy to Alcohol
Replies: 33
Views: 22514

Re: Physical Allergy to Alcohol

From a strict medical/ physiologic definition allergy and allergen loosely loosely applies to alcoholism. An immunologist or rheumatologist would unlikely fully support our model of alcoholism as an allergy. In a purist definition and allergen evokes an autoimmune response (allergic reaction) with a...
by Tuff Gong
Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:03 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 2 and Step 3
Replies: 75
Views: 30452

Re: Step 2 and Step 3

Exactly, its a book on experience. Yet seems to be used as club of conformity and to condemn current AA as being misguided and lacking. As Bill said "Imaging if you will, one alcoholic judging another". Historians paint a softening agnosticism in Jim B but not resolution. So yes, these beliefs or la...
by Tuff Gong
Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:30 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 2 and Step 3
Replies: 75
Views: 30452

Re: Step 2 and Step 3

I have a deep interest in AA history and have read and researched our roots. I was not aware that there was more than Ebby and Bill at the kitchen table on Clinton Street. Seems that some contributors to this forum were present as they speak with such authority and conviction on the events, intentio...
by Tuff Gong
Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:55 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: What is your Higher Power?
Replies: 34
Views: 13816

Re: What is your Higher Power?

I commend you for asking about others relationship with a higher power. It was a struggle for me and to find out how others though and felt served as a great guide for me and helped me develop my own understanding. The beginning of my relationship and understanding of my higher power began when I fi...
by Tuff Gong
Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:17 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: A God of my own understanding
Replies: 44
Views: 11375

Re: A God of my own understanding

Lali,

Egoist? Yikes!

Not sure how you missed my point. As I said "he who says he knows, doesn't" - and yes that applies to me as well, I don't profess to "know" and that is detailed in my post.
by Tuff Gong
Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:29 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: A God of my own understanding
Replies: 44
Views: 11375

Re: A God of my own understanding

I find my experience and current conclusions to closely match Tosh's. Joseph Campbell, comparative mythologist, helped me approach God. He said "I believe in God, just not a personal God". Following a course of serious action, steps as laid out in BB, I have found this reality deep down within to be...