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by Greywolf
Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Do Open Meetings Vary By City / Country?
Replies: 8
Views: 522

Re: Do Open Meetings Vary By City / Country?

AA got it's start with alcoholics returning home after getting sober mostly in Akron and carrying the message that sobriety was possible for alcoholics who wanted to get sober. Carrying the message was believed to be essential to achieving ones own sobriety in the days before the BB was widely distr...
by Greywolf
Wed May 01, 2019 3:21 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Hardline Approach
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: The Hardline Approach

On Saturday in another thread you picked on something I said and commented - “Contrary to some opinion the purpose of AA is to stop drinking and stay sober...” People coming here expect the Purpose of AA to be as is expressed in official AA literature and not the personal opinions of individuals --...
by Greywolf
Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Hardline Approach
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: The Hardline Approach

In 19xx I was trying to find my way in AA, and at every meeting there was this tough old American... Now I have nothing against Americans, and find them as friendly and decent as any other race,
Americans are not a "race."
by Greywolf
Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:13 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Hardline Approach
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: The Hardline Approach

D'oh wrote: Exactly! Every "Successful 12th Step" I have made has started with the 3rd Step Prayer.
I am 100% successful in all my 12th Step work. =surprised Of course the people I've 12 stepped aren't quite so fortunate. =wink =wink
Sometimes I take myself a little too darn seriously.
by Greywolf
Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:41 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: struggling to get back in the lifeboat
Replies: 10
Views: 1720

Re: struggling to get back in the lifeboat

Hi, all. Knowing what to do is not helping me do what I need to. I am 58, lifetime drinker, first got sober around 2001, managed about 8 years at one point, and fell off a couple of years ago. Dual diagnosis (depression). I live alone and have tremendous difficulty with isolation and a powerful int...
by Greywolf
Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Hardline Approach
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: The Hardline Approach

I saw a post someone had made about a quiet older lady who turned up for her first meeting and in that meeting lots of people were swearing and the person writing this post noticed (he felt) that she seemed uncomfortable. She never came back. It made me reconsider. I'm happy you reconsidered (wheth...
by Greywolf
Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:29 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Hardline Approach
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: The Hardline Approach

Hardline is a term some people use for the straight talk Bill W. and other long-timers sober in AA use to help newcomers stay sober. The hardline approach doesn’t work for everyone ... That's correct. The hardline approach only works for those Bill W. calls "real alcoholics" -- those who have tried ...
by Greywolf
Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:20 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Hardline Approach
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: The Hardline Approach

Some say that referring to "real alcoholics" can run people off. What does the Big Book have to say about "real alcoholics"? How many has the BB run off? Chapter 2. There is a Solution But what about the real alcoholic ? He may start off as a moderate drinker; he may or may not become a continuous h...
by Greywolf
Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Problems with one day at a time
Replies: 19
Views: 2905

Re: Problems with one day at a time

Staying sober for "one day at a time" was a concept that helped me a lot when I first stopped drinking alcohol. Even one hour at a time was something I was striving for then. Occasionally somebody tries to got 'one better' and say something about doing it 'one minute at a time'. One of our more exp...
by Greywolf
Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Question? Non Sponsored, Sponsoring
Replies: 10
Views: 1652

Re: Question? Non Sponsored, Sponsoring

Your friend saw something he wanted and was willing to go to any length to get it. Since I read your post the first time, I have thought, what an opportunity for the both of you. There is no down side to this. In my 55 years in AA I have seen no harm can come from being sober and having a spiritual ...
by Greywolf
Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:07 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Question? Non Sponsored, Sponsoring
Replies: 10
Views: 1652

Re: Question? Non Sponsored, Sponsoring

You haven't completed the steps and he won't do them without you. Consider doing them together. You both would benefit greatly.

There are many superstitions regarding how to do the steps. There are no hard and fast rules. Do what works.

And good luck.
by Greywolf
Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:13 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Staying sober in the "short haul"
Replies: 5
Views: 1235

Re: Staying sober in the "short haul"

Very nice contributions to what started out with a few thoughts about staying away from a drink until we were stable not drinking. After our human spirit had awakened by means of steps borrowed from the Oxford Group and other places. Pointing out the Oxford Groups contribution of helping mankind see...
by Greywolf
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:54 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Problems with one day at a time
Replies: 19
Views: 2905

Re: Problems with one day at a time

Thats the issue. Some people relate to the craving part so much they stop reading the rest of the book and for them alcoholism is about losing control after taking that first drink. Because they are desperate at that moment, they dive into rest of the steps without the complete understanding of the...
by Greywolf
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Staying sober in the "short haul"
Replies: 5
Views: 1235

Staying sober in the "short haul"

Dr. Bob asking AA #3 if he could make it without a drink for 24 hours was probably the beginning of the culture of sobriety found in AA 80+ years later. #3 was looking at and talking to evidence that he, as he saw himself -- a hopeless alcoholic, could stay sober at least for one day. Every journey ...
by Greywolf
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Problems with one day at a time
Replies: 19
Views: 2905

Re: Problems with one day at a time

Because in my opinion those who overdo this ODAAT business, when referring to staying sober, make our program look very weak, instead of the powerful program it is. Live one day at a time, that’s a good message, and it’s what the book says. The US Supreme Court has ruled that context is decisive. O...