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by BPG
Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Speaking my truth about God... read with caution
Replies: 34
Views: 13289

Re: Speaking my truth about God... read with caution

I was reminded of my own struggles by your post. I used to love to think about the problem of evil in the world according to the old formula; If God is great he is not good; if God is good, he is not great. In other words, either God is an almighty SOB who doesn't give a rat's rump for the human rac...
by BPG
Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:38 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Real alcoholic
Replies: 72
Views: 24205

Re: Real alcoholic

So you are plucking this section out of a 1961 Grapevine article on spiritual humility as Bill W.'s way of saying everything that they shared in the book is wrong...And the AA message should be carried anyway you want?...Is that where you are going with this? I'm not going anywhere, friend ... I'm ...
by BPG
Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:17 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Real alcoholic
Replies: 72
Views: 24205

Re: Real alcoholic

Humility for Today by Bill W. from AA Grapevine, June 1961 Now that we no longer patronize bars and bordellos; now that we bring home the pay checks; now that we are so very active in AA; and now that people congratulate us on these signs of progress--well, we naturally proceed to congratulate ourse...
by BPG
Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:41 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Recovering or Recovered?
Replies: 74
Views: 29470

Re: Recovering or Recovered?

Stepchild wrote:The defiance on this site to the experience and knowledge the founders put down in the book...Is mind boggling.
Defiance? Seriously?

Mind boggling is certainly the relevant term .....
by BPG
Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:31 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Recovering or Recovered?
Replies: 74
Views: 29470

Re: Recovering or Recovered?

Forget about whether you think you are recovered or not...Shouldn't someone new to AA at least hear that? To know that exists? Of course newcomers should read the Big Book and benefit from the wisdom therein. I don't know of anyone in the program who would say otherwise. But that's a very different...
by BPG
Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:16 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Recovering or Recovered?
Replies: 74
Views: 29470

Re: Recovering or Recovered?

ESH is individual, expressed in different words. Those who are interested in the steps as a way to stop drinking are listening for how the steps work as a way of living sober. Newcomers want to know how the steps apply to their lives of sobriety, so the more varied the message of AA's 12 steps are,...
by BPG
Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:07 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Recovering or Recovered?
Replies: 74
Views: 29470

Re: Recovering or Recovered?

In the rooms I usually hear 'recovering' more than 'recovered'. One friend always says 'recovering and discovering'. I like that. To me, 'recovering' doesn't imply victim hood; it implies continuing growth --- spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection. After all, if I'm 'recovered', I don'...
by BPG
Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:26 am
Forum: For the Newcomer
Topic: is there a place for me here?
Replies: 12
Views: 6863

Re: is there a place for me here?

Hi Mal The 'God stuff' almost caused me to avoid AA. Ultimately it did not. Thank God. :D You can see from the posts above that AA is a big tent, with room for all who want to quit drinking. Some members will suggest otherwise, but you can safely ignore them. Your spiritual journey through the 12 st...
by BPG
Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:47 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: newbie with a question
Replies: 9
Views: 6312

Re: newbie with a question

I am from Massachusetts... I am 2 days sober... I have always been skeptical of AA due to the heavy religious overtones and the push for a faith. However I am struggling with maintaining sobriety without a support group. I am wondering if there is such thing as a non religious / white collar meetin...
by BPG
Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:54 pm
Forum: Sponsorship
Topic: Myths of sponsorship for the superstitious
Replies: 69
Views: 56821

Re: Myths of sponsorship for the superstitious

avaneesh912 wrote:There are some highly evolved conscious being who are able to recognize the selfishness and self-centered attitude and are able to live a normal life without having to consult others.
And it gives them more time to work on their humility.
by BPG
Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:32 am
Forum: For the Newcomer
Topic: Being afraid of the evenings
Replies: 8
Views: 4971

Re: Being afraid of the evenings

Hi Soka When I was new to the program I recall thinking that I needed a drink. I knew that I WANTED a drink, and I definitely felt like I deserved a drink. Very soon, I no longer needed that drink, and it wasn't too long before I found that I didn't WANT it, either. And through the AA program, I eve...
by BPG
Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:43 pm
Forum: For the Newcomer
Topic: When is a person recovered or cured?
Replies: 70
Views: 28248

Re: When is a person recovered or cured?

I've never thought of "recovering" as meaning being sick for the rest of my life but thanks for sharing that's what you hear when AAer's say that. For me it just means I'll never be cured of this disease. I liked what positrac posted. "I'm in remission." Does that phrase imply false humility to you...
by BPG
Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:20 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: To identify, or not identify, as an alcoholic
Replies: 20
Views: 9424

Re: To identify, or not identify, as an alcoholic

I hope that those of you who have kindly indulged my previous rambling posts will not roll your eyes too badly at another one. Clearly, I'll still trying to figure this thing out Hi YogaAbba - Your post was well thought out, apparently sincere and --- to me, anyway --- familiar. I commend you for y...
by BPG
Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:16 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: An Obsession With Doing It Alone
Replies: 25
Views: 8399

Re: An Obsession With Doing It Alone

But having been in the program for a bit over six years I now have a pretty good idea of what a 'healthy balance' feels like, I probably got that knowledge years ago when I completed the steps. And for me a person with such a 'going it alone' obsession that I never had a sponsor, while I appreciate...
by BPG
Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:03 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Do you have to lose everything for this to work?
Replies: 21
Views: 9682

Re: Do you have to lose everything for this to work?

This is going to sound harsh, GreatD, but how many years has your wife had to suffer your drinking? Yes, this is the point. About 22 years into sobriety, my wife and I had a disagreement that more or less grew out of my past drinking behavior. My first reaction, of course, was 'WTF! That was 22 yea...