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by JohnZ
Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:06 am
Forum: Big Book Study
Topic: How It Works, Step 4 - Study Questions
Replies: 21
Views: 23113

Re: How It Works, Step 4 - Study Questions

Black bits . . . something I heard when I came to e-AA . . . it was advised, "Read the Big Book. Pay attention to the black bits." In other words, and I hope i interpreted this correctly, what is actually written. Not what I get from the book, or what other have told me. What the written words say....
by JohnZ
Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:04 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions
Replies: 8
Views: 5474

Re: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions

I had trouble just answering these questions. I did a lot of "thinking". My thinking makes me sicker at this point. Finally, I picked up a pen. Later, I got paper and wrote a one word "list". I read and re-read Step 4 in the BB & the 12x12. I kept reviewing the questions and began to answer. I was ...
by JohnZ
Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:01 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions
Replies: 8
Views: 5474

Re: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions

8. We can look back over our lives & use our best judgement of right & wrong and make a rough draft of OUR conduct & look at those areas that have been acutely troublesome & obvious. We may also note repeated behaviors with the same people/situations as a potential problem that needs addressing. It...
by JohnZ
Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:55 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions
Replies: 8
Views: 5474

Re: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions

6. A sponsor can share some of their own character defects & how otheir lives had been affected. Particularly when dealing with one who is overcome by "self justification" a delusion of our warped ego-mania which allowed some of us the excuses we used for drinking. The people who wouldn't have dran...
by JohnZ
Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:47 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 5 - 12&12 Study Questions
Replies: 2
Views: 3081

Step 5 - 12&12 Study Questions

1. What have we learned in AA, with respect to Step 5? (Pg. 55) 2. Why do many AA's try to bypass Step 5? (Pg. 55) 3. In what ways do alcoholics suffer when skimping on Step 5? (Pg.56) 4. Is the practice of admitting one's defects new? (Pg. 56) 5. What are the results of Step 5? (Pgs. 57-8) 6. Does ...
by JohnZ
Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:08 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions
Replies: 8
Views: 5474

Re: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions

5. We are using self justification, blaming conditions in our lives and other people's actions to justify our behavior & it is very painful to look inside honestly. This perverse soul sickness is not pleasant to look upon. Instincts on a rampage balk at investigation. The minute we make a serious a...
by JohnZ
Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:44 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions
Replies: 8
Views: 5474

Re: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions

3. Step 4 is our vigorous and painstaking effort to discover what these liabilities in each of us has been, and are. We want to find out exactly how, when and where our natural desires have warped us. We wish to look squarely at the unhappiness this has caused others & ourselves. By discovering wha...
by JohnZ
Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:31 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions
Replies: 8
Views: 5474

Re: Step Four - 12&12 Study Questions

Here are my answers to the best of my ability for my journey through Step 4. 1. We have natural instincts in order for us to survive as a species. This is necessary and right, surely "God-given". 2. When instincts far exceed their proper functions, they drive, dominate and rule our lives. Finally, ...
by JohnZ
Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:21 am
Forum: Big Book Study
Topic: Into Action, Step 5 - Study Questions
Replies: 2
Views: 4759

Into Action, Step 5 - Study Questions

1. How is the personal inventory summarized in the first paragraph of Pg. 72? 2. What is the best reason for taking Step 5 according to the book? (Pg. 72) 3. What trait exists in an Alcoholic more than in most people? (Pg. 73) 4. If we are to live long and happily in this world, what must we do? (Pg...
by JohnZ
Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:36 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: STEPSBYBIGBOOK dot NET
Replies: 11
Views: 3233

Re: STEPSBYBIGBOOK dot NET

Thanks vermonter - I downloaded the pdf and I'll have a close look at it when I get a chance.

I like anything that puts a focus on the BB, but the emphasis on writing may be too much for some. The only writing the BB instructs us to do is in the 4th and 8th steps.
by JohnZ
Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:18 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Where does "willingness" begin
Replies: 64
Views: 29167

Re: Where does "willingness" begin

Willing to listen is a good place to start.
by JohnZ
Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:47 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Phony Bill W.
Replies: 19
Views: 6554

Re: The Phony Bill W.

People who call AA a cult have obviously not researched what cults do. In AA, nobody takes attendance, you're free to come and go as you please, nobody tells you what to do - they're just suggestions for sobriety, you don't have to tell anyone where you live, nobody wants your money, no one person ...
by JohnZ
Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:25 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Phony Bill W.
Replies: 19
Views: 6554

Re: The Phony Bill W.

People who call AA a cult have obviously not researched what cults do. In AA, nobody takes attendance, you're free to come and go as you please, nobody tells you what to do - they're just suggestions for sobriety, you don't have to tell anyone where you live, nobody wants your money, no one person i...
by JohnZ
Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:17 am
Forum: For the Newcomer
Topic: I want to kill myself, I cant deal with life anymore
Replies: 46
Views: 10723

Re: I want to kill myself, I cant deal with life anymore

Well, you didn't insult me at all, friend. We've all struggled through issues of faith and the fear of sobriety. Think of the spiritual achievements you could enjoy in your religious life if you weren't enslaved by alcohol!
by JohnZ
Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:57 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: The Phony Bill W.
Replies: 19
Views: 6554

Re: The Phony Bill W.

Bill W was indeed all of those things. He was an alcoholic. But AA abides by an important maxim: principles before personalities, and that maxim applies even to the founder of the society.

If AA works for you, who cares? Many leaders of great movements were less than perfect.